A University student arrested preemptively before the Republican National Convention will be one of the first people prosecuted under a terrorism clause in the Minnesota Patriot Act since it was passed in 2002.
Cultural studies junior Max Specktor is charged with conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism.
Monday, Specktor’s hearing was postponed until at least November.
Specktor and seven other defendants facing the same charge will be heard together, and face a maximum of seven and a half years of jail time.
The eight suspects, calling themselves the RNC 8, plan to plead not guilty to the charges, defendant Nathanael Secor said.
Max Specktor
As a housemate fried long strips of sweet potato in the kitchen, Specktor sat on the front stairs of his Minneapolis house and dwelled on the prospect of seven-and-a-half years in jail, and the guarantee of cost and worry from a yearlong trial.
Specktor, a graduate of Minneapolis South High School, got involved with activism by planning protests against the Iraq War.
“After doing that kind of work in high school, I was kind of burned out on trying to change something with a big protest,” Specktor said. “I was getting into local community work.”
He got involved with a now-closed Jackpine Community Center on Lake Street in Minneapolis, where many people were planning protests with the RNC Welcoming Committee, an anti-authoritarian activist group.
“The RNC, obviously I didn’t want it to come to my town,” he said. “I thought, ‘Wow, maybe this is a chance to learn some skills and build community.’ ”
The group, which typically fluctuated between 20 and 30 people, took inspiration from mass mobilizations from the “anti-globalization movement” of the late 1990s, like the protests that helped shut down the World Trade Organization’s conference in Seattle in 1999.
“I got a lot of inspiration from that,” he said. “Our movement, especially the radical anti-war and social justice, needs a big event to keep it going.”
The RNC Welcoming Committee wasn’t planning any illegal actions, Specktor said; instead they set up housing, meals and legal support for other protesters, some of whom might engage in civil disobedience.
“Basically, we provided the infrastructure for people to survive in the city while they’re protesting,” he said.
But authorities pointed to the group’s website, which urged a strategy called “swarm, seize, and stay” that used civil disobedience to try to shut down the convention.
Civil disobedience, while illegal, can be traced back to the foundation of the United States and is very different from terrorism, Specktor said.
“[Civil disobedience is] consciously making a decision to disobey for a higher purpose,” he said. “It’s a time-honored tradition that we celebrate in our history books, the people in the civil rights era who sat in at the lunch counters and wouldn’t get out of their seats.”
Preemptive raids
The weekend before the protests, activists’ houses, including Specktor’s, were raided by the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Department and other law enforcement agencies.
Six members of the RNC Welcoming Committee were arrested Saturday, Aug. 30, while Specktor and another man were arrested the following Monday morning — Sept. 1, the first day of the RNC.
Protesters had yet to unfurl the first banner during protests in St. Paul.
During raids, police said they found throwing-style knives, fireworks, a box containing gas masks and lock picking kits, according to the criminal complaint.
They also seized activist literature concerning the RNC, maps of St. Paul, paint and electronics, the complaint stated.
After Specktor’s arrest, police found a backpack containing a plastic bottle of Mylanta, black gloves, and a paper entitled: “St. Paul and the RNC burn 9/1/08.”
In Specktor’s vehicle, police found a pry bar, two boxes of firecrackers, five assorted black helmets and a roll of unused caution tape, the police complaint stated.
The actions police and authorities took were ridiculous, said Ted Dooley , one of the lawyers representing the RNC 8.
“Anything is a weapon if it is used as a weapon,” he said.
The Ramsey County Sheriff’s department spokesperson did not return multiple phone calls requesting comment.
After the raids, Specktor was the only one of the RNC 8 who was held in the psychiatric ward of the Ramsey County Law
Enforcement Center, he said.
“I was in a cell by myself; the whole time I was only released for an hour to walk along this short hallway and make a few phone calls,” he said. “I felt powerless, but I didn’t feel threatened.”
After three days, he was released after being charged with conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism.
The Case
Bruce Nestor, president of the Minnesota chapter of the National Lawyers Guild said the terrorism charges trivialize real acts of violence and potentially violate the First Amendment.
“This is an attempt to criminalize political dissent,” he said. “It has a chilling effect on anybody planning political activities.”
However, University law professor Dale Carpenter said if the state can prove the RNC 8 had intent to commit violence, the state has a pretty good chance of winning the case.
The state doesn’t have to wait for people to riot or endanger lives in order to make arrests, Carpenter said.
“If someone is threatening to punch you, a police officer doesn’t have to wait until he actually punches you to arrest him,” Carpenter said.
After lawyers obtained copies of search warrants, Welcoming Committee members discovered that the group had been infiltrated by law enforcement and paid informants for about a year.
Information obtained by paid police informants is often inaccurate or made up, Nestor said.
“There’s a history of paid informants actually being provocateurs,” Nestor said. “Meaning they commit illegal acts or encourage illegal acts to increase the value of their information.”
During a raid on an unrelated house during the RNC, information provided by one of the FBI’s informants was inaccurate, Nestor said.
The informant said there would be boxes of weapons delivered to a house in St. Paul, but the boxes turned out to contain literature instead, Nestor said.
“If that’s one of the informers that the FBI is relying on, I have no more reason to trust the informers being used by the Ramsey County Sheriff,” he said
Specktor said it was strange to realize people he’d worked with for more than a year were being paid by police.
“We went through all this organizing aware that we might be surveilled,” he said. “It’s kind of creepy when you find out who those people were.”
Community reactions
Specktor said his friends, family and neighbors have been nothing but supportive.
“You might read blogs that say we’re terrorists and people comment and say we should be hung up,” Specktor said, “but my friends and everyone I’ve talked to since these events have gone down have had nothing but positive things to say.”
Mordecai Specktor , Max Specktor’s father and the editor of American Jewish World said he and Specktor’s mother are proud of their son’s activism.
“My wife and I are worried about Max; of course we don’t want to see our son go to prison,” he said. “We’re glad that he’s idealistic and that he has ideas about social betterment and uplifting people.”
As a journalist, Mordecai Specktor said the media mostly failed to critically examine police claims about activists.
“In the case of the RNC 8, there’s all these wild claims [in the police’s complaint] of kidnapping delegates,” he said. “Journalists should be investigating the case and finding where the truth lies; we’re not just like the record and playback buttons on the tape recorder.”
The arrests and charges facing the RNC 8 are designed to intimidate people from demonstrating, Mordecai Specktor said.
“We saw this dress rehearsal for the police state during the RNC,” he said. “[It’s] designed to make people nervous about articulating their views.”
Gus Ganley , a University film student who was found innocent during his own trial for an arrest at a protest last year, said facing prison time for activism can interfere with relationships and self-esteem.
“The nature of this crime, it’s a thought crime,” Ganley said. “You’re constantly thinking about it, constantly looking over your shoulder.”
Ganley, a friend of Specktor’s, said Specktor tries not to let the charges affect his life.
“With Max, I’ve noticed if anything he’s more energized,” Ganley said. “That just speaks to his character, that he’s somebody with such a vast reserve of energy that he’s able to tap into.”
Specktor said he’s trying to focus on the importance of his case as an educational tool.
“It might inspire people if we win. It might inspire people if we lose,” he said. “If people see we’re going to jail for their belief it’s going to inspire people.”
The price of losing the case would be balanced by this educational benefit, Specktor said.
“I’m not saying I want to go to jail,” he said. “If you stand up for your beliefs and they arrest you for it, I don’t think you should stop standing up for your beliefs.”
Comments
RNC8?!!
I can't believe these kids are calling themselves the RNC 8 and obvious comparison to the Chicago 7 or 8. Not even close kids, but good luck.
RNC 8 / Chicago 8
Tom Hayden, a member of the Chicago 8, met with a couple of the RNC 8 last week.
Ask him if there's any comparison.
i think the rnc people are
i think the rnc people are facing similar, if not the same, charges as the yippies back in '68. but yeah, theres no real comparison, the 60's people seemed to be much more of a "threat". kinda makes you wonder why these kids were arrested in the manner they were. i believe shame is due to the officers involved in creating this case.
no comparison?
both were charged with conspiracy...
Life
Sentence him to life!!!!!! Put him away forever!!!!! He will never do anything worth while for this country.
Ha!
Go back to Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany. You fool, don't you see what you're saying? Do you honestly think he should be deprived of his freedom for the rest of his life because you don't think he'll do anything worthwhile for his country?
By standing up for all of our rights as Americans and refusing to be silenced by the state, he's done more for his country already than you ever will in your lifetime. Really, what have you ever done of value in your life? Work and pay taxes? Thanks a lot buddy. Go throw yourself on a grenade for your beliefs. Ha, not gonna happen. You don't deserve freedom. You were a Tory during our first revolution, and if you don't know what that means, go look it up.
Hey, it's okay
Hey, they're being sarcastic. See the excessive exclamation points? Hard to tell in text sometimes, so, no worries.
psst...hey....wake up, now.... wake up and look around, real slow, or they'll spot you...
What a bunch of goons... My
What a bunch of goons...
My generation has been raised in an absolutely consequence free environment. We start salivating at the opportunity to play the role of the idealistic martyrs.
These guys were planning to cause intentional chaos that could actually have led to people getting hurt. You can bet that if they had actually gotten a chance to use those lock picking kits, gas masks and fireworks (which sound just like rifle shots to the senator walking from his car to the entrance of the conference center) that they would have neatly filed it under "free speech!!! Right to assemble!!!" clinging to the very system that they were trying to disrupt.
Gas masks, fireworks, and
Gas masks, fireworks, and lock picking kits? Are you fucking kidding?
I don't think gas masks are what you'd consider an offensive weapon.
It is legal and pretty trivial to own firecrackers. The fourth of July was only a month or so before the arrests. How do you know they're even related to the RNC protest?
Lock picking is also a pretty common hobby amongst kids. It may be illegal to own them, but it's not exactly terrorism. No more than, say, owning a chainsaw, a bolt cutter, a saw, or a lawn mower for that matter.
i do believe fireworks are
i do believe fireworks are illegal in the city of Minneapolis and St. Paul.
then why aren't they just
then why aren't they just being investigated for that? the problem is if fireworks + lock picking kits + gas mask = terrorist...
then i'm in big trouble. i studied jewelry and i have a welding mask, files and nitric acid. it's very dangerous to go down this path that claims things that aren't weapons by themselves and are legal to possess indicate terrorism, just because the police say so.
First they came for these kids, then....
I saw cops and Homeland Security pick up hundreds of protesters, all peaceful ones whom I saw with my own eyes, on Labor Day. We let St. Paul be taken over by a literal police state that week. We are responsible for telling the rest of the world how things are now in this country now that we know. If you didn't see the hundreds of police provoking locals and passers-by, go to a hearing yourself and talk to these students and their families and you will get an education you will always remember. Their stories are true and urgent, and we need to support them and ourselves now while we can.
I was there, and never thought things could get so bad. We need to act now before it is too late for all of us in every state. Talk to them yourself! Demand that the journalists investigate, since the police do not police themselves.
While the police were
While the police were over-the-top with their methods at the RNC (especially leading up to it), I have a big problem with this RNC 8 bull. While I think it is a stretch and a laugh to call it terrorism, a word thrown around far too much in this country, I do think that the police had a proper reason if they found what they found in his backpack. Fake police tape, a map that says RNC burn, and several 'weapons.'
He claims he wants to better society, yet seeks to unravel it by engaging in the 'violent' protests from the RNC.
Protesting does nothing in this country. The rich white raisins in suits control this country and they don't give a damn about what your or I think about things, as evidenced with the Iraq War and just about everything else you can think of.
While civil unrest may have helped form this country, this is not the same country it was 200+ years ago, remember that.
All the civil disobedience did was create a culture of unrest during the RNC, and the police were used more force than necessary on people who were being peaceful, as they didn't know who was a threat and who wasn't.
I talked to several RNC people as they bussed over to the UMN campus and walked around like lost dogs staring at the liberal college students, exchanging words of "This country is in trouble." Anyhoo, they said they had bottles of urine thrown at them and their busses among other things.
As much as I dislike the Republican party, that behavior is unacceptable. And so is any form of activism when it takes on violent tendencies. RNC 8...give me a break. This isn't the Little Rock 9.
congratulations, you've just
congratulations, you've just rejected the bill of rights.
"While civil unrest may have helped form this country, this is not the same country it was 200+ years ago, remember that.
All the civil disobedience did was create a culture of unrest during the RNC, and the police were used more force than necessary on people who were being peaceful, as they didn't know who was a threat and who wasn't."
it could be the same country it was 200 years ago. when you believe the police have the right to use force on peaceful people, our rights are gone. we are specifically allowed to congregate and express ourselves and appeal to representatives of our government.
you would give all that up, just because one of these people you call "raisins in suits" complained someone threw pee at him. good job. you want to know why this is not the same country we had 200 years ago? it's because you and people like you accept this culture and tell the rest of us it cannot be changed.
i simply look to ben franklin's original idea for our country's seal and motto: "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God."
http://www.greatseal.com/committees/firstcomm/reverse.html
no comparison?
Why yes. Both were pathetic loosers hoping that being "radicals" would get them laid.
Proof!
So just reminding everyone who is reading this: As the arrests were pre-emptive, there is a certain burden of proof lying with the prosecution--to prove that any of the things they found were in that house with INTENT to cause harm or incite violence. What do you carry in your backpack? If you were arrested right now, how would your things be interpreted?
The paper didn't say "Burn the RNC down on September 1st, 2008," it said merely, "St. Paul and the RNC burn 9/1/08." That, Mylanta and a pair of black gloves and I'm supposed to believe that this kid meant to burn down the RNC? Maybe the kid just uses Mylanta and has cold hands.
At this point, I have not seen significant enough evidence to condemn the RNC 8 or any other protester. But the moment I see some sort of credible evidence, I will at least take it into consideration--but I refuse to issue a guilty verdict, as a member of this community, based on Mylanta.
Max Sphincter won't have that
Max Sphincter won't have that smirk very long once he's in prison.
and as students in our
and as students in our country go to jail for years for having firecrackers...... our country bombs the hell out of other countries and trains death squad leaders at fort benning georgia... who are the real terrorists?
I think the police state supporting nuts that may post stuff on blogs like these should have some self reflection.... Im sure people like you talked about how the trade unionists should be locked up in concentration camps during the 30s in germany in op/eds....
and should we move closer to a fascist state, I am sure you will be some of the first asshole brownshirts we will have to confront in the streets....
Free the RNC 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and solidarity from NJ
RNC 8
The cops all over the country are breaking up anti-war protests. Often quite violently. And plenty of people have been hurt and/or are already doing time on federal trespassing charges for instance. It is past time for the whole of the anti-war movement to make it plain if this keeps up, there most certainly will be consequences: Trials of high serving officials for war crimes, authorizing torture, etc. None of this truth commission nonsense.
If nothing else, the economic consequences of the war, as we are just beginning to see, will be so prolonged and so severe that there could very well be a real change of government, something other than these mealy-mouthed corporate Democrats, sometime in the not-so-distant future. Reciprocity anyone? You beat us up, put us in jail now, we put you in jail tomorrow? Is this the game we should all play?
Chris Herz
cdherz44@yahoo.com
Sad
Welcome to the new Regime! Heil Bush!!
www.privacy-center.ru.tc
Serves that mutherfuken
Serves that mutherfuken Liberal right. In fact 7.5 years is too light. I recommend slow torturing.
Conservative --> NOT
It's people like you, pal, who give conservatives a bad name.
I'd suggest you read "The Conscience of a Conservative" by Barry Goldwater.
Then get one.
I am not a terrorist and neither is Max
At my house I have leftover firecrackers from July 4th, black gloves, brown gloves, yellow gloves, Mylanta, Pepto Bismol, carburetor cleaner, a couple rifles, a shotgun, a handgun, ammunition, a BB gun, steak knives, pocket knives, a bottle of ammonia, cold medicine with pseudoephedrine, rubbing alcohol, drinking alcohol, all sorts of electronic devices, spare wire, computers, timing circuitry in the form of alarm clocks, maps of various cities, photographs of tall buildings, political books that criticize things, psychology books, history books about totalitarian police states, hairpins and nailfiles that could be used to pick locks, chlorine, diesel fuel, fertilizer, and who knows what else that could be made to seem suspicious by listing it in a fraudulent police report.
So do millions of other americans. All of it is legal. All of it has thousands of uses other than "terrorism" and possessing any or all of it is not a crime in any sane country.
I don't have the roll of yellow police tape, but I've seen it at the novelty store at the mall. It's a common thing for people to buy for halloween and then make "murder scenes" in their front yard for the trick or treaters.
Great, now all you need is
Great, now all you need is involvement in an activist groups which intends to create chaos, a website telling people how they can be a part of it, and maps showing exactly where its going to take place.
Do you really not see the difference?
Your an idiot... Create
Your an idiot... Create Chaos? They were creating an infrastructure for political protesters to express their first amendment right and IMHO very justly at the evil that is the RNC. I think they have made their point quite well and the fact that people as stupid and brainwashed you exist scares me. You don't see the redneck ass trash screaming "Kill Obama" with houses packed full of shotguns getting sting operations pulled on them and getting hauled to prison as terrorists? These are people shouting for the death of a presidential candidate in the streets. But man a liberal makes a web site to unite people who actually give a shit about the country and has indigestion after the 4th of July is a terrorist? The hypocrisy of these people sickens me, and their abject fear of the people scares me even more...
Think long and hard
Way back when in high school while reading Orwell's 1984 I thought to myself that America is heading in the same direction but it would take decades. I was wrong, oh so wrong. Ever so subtly America has shifted to a totalitarian state. The average idiot does not realize the muck we are all in and the freedom excuse used by the average idiot is null and void. Free? We are not free. The powers that be have realized that if they can keep us comfortable anything goes. Think about it... Think long and hard.
Its not just the leaders we need to fear, its their followers...
The post before yours is by a conservative who says: "Serves that mutherfuken Liberal right. In fact 7.5 years is too light. I recommend slow torturing" ......... demonstrates that it is not just the government we need to fear....as John Dean points out in Conservatives without conscience" it is the mass of uneducated, angry, dogmatic, authoritarians (like the "conservative") who seek to serve and follow personages like Hitler, Stalin or....Bush/Cheny. So when do they advocate death camps for people who don't believe as they do??
Welcome to the USSA
Welcome to the USSA
Re: Think long and hard
This prosecution represents the repression of our civil liberties.
If you dare to dissent, look at what happens to you.
Do something today to support the RNC 8.
"In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
Our founders
Must be rolling over in their graves. Our republic is gone and most Americans are too dumb to even care. Our generation has failed freedom. Go watch Heroes and play some more video games while you can. Fools.
People not to falsely charge
People not to falsely charge with terrorism: well connected jewish kids who appear to be upper middle class.
I'm hoping this atrocity leads to more hippies and more activism.
The Specktors are a middle
The Specktors are a middle class family. I know them personally.
help
tell them to contact me, i need help.
i have bond money.
WalKnDude
*nofear*
Guy looks like a pompous
Guy looks like a pompous schmuck
Framing the Innocent
Back in the 90's, the FBI said that Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney of Earth First! were guilty of terrorism because the nails in the carbomb that fractured her pelvis matched the nails found in her Mendocino cabin. Duh -- she was a carpenter, and there were millions of those particular nails made. Manufactured evidence to frame progressive activists is a time-honored tradition among the fascist gendarme. Nonviolent civil disobedience is not terrorism -- back when I went to jail for a better society, it was pre-911 and they hadn't started calling idealist kids "terrorists." Or I'd be one, and probably still rotting in prison. Free the RNC 8!
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